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Post by blade on Oct 27, 2008 16:21:29 GMT -5
So, I've come up with the following suggestions. I've already PM'ed each administrator about it, and from the looks of it, we've gotten thumbs up. Just posting it here to hear everyone else's opinions on it. OK, so here it goes:
Welcome Committee (WC) The Welcome Committee is a group of older members on the forum, who volunteer to make threads specifically for the new members of the forum. For example, and old member like me would make a thread titled 'Thread Title (Welcome Committee/Open). It's just to insure that new members can get used to the forum, and do things at their own pace, because most new members are a little shy to get involved, and this will help a lot.
Event Committee (EC) Maybe not as genius as the Welcome Committee, but it's to be considered. The Event Committee's aims are to arrange board-wide plots, in which pretty much any character can take part. They also get together to discuss sub-plots, that aren't related with the whole Mewtwo-Pravus-Ranger stuff. They arrange fun events and competitions for the forum also.
Right. I've done my bit, so I'll let y'all dicuss it now. *slinks away*
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Post by Reid on Oct 27, 2008 16:29:25 GMT -5
I like those idea's! I'm not certain how the welcome committee will work, but it sounds novel, and the event comittee would be useful to make sure everyone knew about something that was happening. I think they both are good!
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Post by jespeon on Oct 27, 2008 16:30:14 GMT -5
I likeys =] The EC would be fun and would make Remoor more exciting =] Not that it needs to be though XD
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Post by Jachai J. Jean-Jacques III on Oct 27, 2008 17:28:45 GMT -5
I really like these ideas. Idea number one I like because usually I'm kinda shy around new sites, and its refreshing to be recognized like that. <333 Sweet. Number two sounds FRIGGIN awesome because most of the time I don't get involved in plots cause it feels like I'm barging in on someone's private property. xDD I say I like 'em.
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Post by aug on Oct 27, 2008 17:31:37 GMT -5
SO. It's a good idea. But in practice, I'm not so sure I'm a fan. I mean, I'm all for including people into site affairs and the like; that's a great idea. But I'd be sort of offended if people decided to post with me just because it was part of the job or just because I was new. And on top of that, what if the characters don't really fit together? And on top of that, it wouldn't be to further a particular character's development or the plot, but just to be all warm and fuzzy and friendly. And in the end, I'm left wondering if the WC's energy wouldn't be better directed at finding a character who fits with the new person better and encouraging people on the site to post with them because their character's interesting or because there are actual ideas to be shared, not necessarily because they're new.
=o Maybe it's just me. I mean, I like the idea, I just think the WC would be better off trying to encourage the new people to make threads and be outgoing and to look for their own plots with other members instead of randomly forming threads and being all, "OH. PLAY. DO. NOW." Because that feels a little disingenuous.
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Post by elisa on Oct 27, 2008 17:37:15 GMT -5
SO. It's a good idea. But in practice, I'm not so sure I'm a fan. I mean, I'm all for including people into site affairs and the like; that's a great idea. But I'd be sort of offended if people decided to post with me just because it was part of the job or just because I was new. And on top of that, what if the characters don't really fit together? And on top of that, it wouldn't be to further a particular character's development or the plot, but just to be all warm and fuzzy and friendly. And in the end, I'm left wondering if the WC's energy wouldn't be better directed at finding a character who fits with the new person better and encouraging people on the site to post with them because their character's interesting or because there are actual ideas to be shared, not necessarily because they're new. =o Maybe it's just me. I mean, I like the idea, I just think the WC would be better off trying to encourage the new people to make threads and be outgoing and to look for their own plots with other members instead of randomly forming threads and being all, "OH. PLAY. DO. NOW." Because that feels a little disingenuous. No new member has to post in a WC thread. Its up to them, and there will be numerous WC members, which means there will (or should be) different personalities with each one. So, naturally, a new member may choose which WC thread they want to join, if they want to join any at all. I appreciate your critisism, but take Shaki. She just said she'd love the WC idea being brought through.
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Post by aug on Oct 27, 2008 17:49:33 GMT -5
So, everyone on the WC is going to make a thread for one person? =/ That's a lot of threads and if they don't pick one, then that thread goes unanswered. And if they reply to them all, then that means that the new person would be swamped in threads. Or would this work on a feeding ground type system? You drop one thread and let the new people congregate at that place? And it's different threads for different types of characters? If so, that's still very impersonal and ultimately a little insulting. "YOU. NEW PERSON. PLAY." It still feels as though you're forcing people to become a part of the "Remoor Scene" and that's not for everyone. The way things are now seems to be working. New people show up, we greet them, they make threads that may or may not get responded to, they come to the C-box, we get to know them, plots are made. Or they could ask. Really, though, I think that going out there and being so pro-active about it is sort of intimidating and a recipe for wasted writing.
Unless you plan on handling it on a case-by-case basis. Send a PM to greet them and let them know that if they want to thread, they can let you know. That, I see working. That, I've seen working on a couple of other sites. And, the thing is, if someone finds another character interesting, they'll PM about it. They'll reach out to that other player and ask them if they want to plot. Most plots take care of themselves that way, without a third-party guiding them. I don't think that this system, this WC, EC system is necessary. Maybe sending PMs would help the natural flow that's going on, but at the end of the day, I'd say it was more accessory than necessity. [/size]
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Post by xxphenomenonxx on Oct 27, 2008 17:59:48 GMT -5
SO. It's a good idea. But in practice, I'm not so sure I'm a fan. I mean, I'm all for including people into site affairs and the like; that's a great idea. But I'd be sort of offended if people decided to post with me just because it was part of the job or just because I was new. And on top of that, what if the characters don't really fit together? And on top of that, it wouldn't be to further a particular character's development or the plot, but just to be all warm and fuzzy and friendly. And in the end, I'm left wondering if the WC's energy wouldn't be better directed at finding a character who fits with the new person better and encouraging people on the site to post with them because their character's interesting or because there are actual ideas to be shared, not necessarily because they're new. =o Maybe it's just me. I mean, I like the idea, I just think the WC would be better off trying to encourage the new people to make threads and be outgoing and to look for their own plots with other members instead of randomly forming threads and being all, "OH. PLAY. DO. NOW." Because that feels a little disingenuous. No new member has to post in a WC thread. Its up to them, and there will be numerous WC members, which means there will (or should be) different personalities with each one. So, naturally, a new member may choose which WC thread they want to join, if they want to join any at all. I appreciate your critisism, but take Shaki. She just said she'd love the WC idea being brought through. Hm. No offence is intended when I say this however, but I'd have to agree with Brandon (Wynn) on this one. The EC sounds like an excellent idea. And we all know that no one has to post anywhere, but I feel as if the WC would exhaust it's energy and the point would dry out rather quickly. I don't know. It seems moot, to me. And a little insulting, I think. o.< It's probably just me..again. But I remember when I was new here around August and the thought of somebody posting with me just cause I was a new person would have...guh. Well. Maybe it's just the way I work. But it would have insulted my abilities. I think from what I understand of the WC, it would take too much effort to run (firstly) and when it came down to it, I doubt it would have much more then the added effect of a new person starting up a thread saying, "New Here" or something along those lines. We all welcome new people as it is, y'know? I feel almost as if making this would be repetitive, and when you have the EC, you wouldn't need the WC so much, because if you wanted to, you could make a sub category in the EC boards that IS dedicated to new members and pointing out those plots and giving them a place to talk and so on and so forth.
Another thing I'm not so sure about...how in the world do you choose members for these committees? Are all the 'old remoorians' members? And what exactly constitutes 'old'? Is there some kind of application process to take part in it? Hm. I feel as if would insult someone too, if they weren't a part of the EC or the WC. I mean..then you feel left out. Who will run these things? I feel as if the setup isn't explained enough to me. And what would be the difference between a member that is not 'in charge' of the EC/WC and a member that is just...I don't know. A part of it? That starts giving members authority over others. I'm not certain..if the idea sits well with me. Both of them seem to require so much energy as well. I'm a little worried that these ideas will dry out...and maintenence of them will stop completely.
Good idea, but a lot of kinks I'm thinking that need to be worked out. o.<
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Post by elisa on Oct 27, 2008 18:01:45 GMT -5
So, everyone on the WC is going to make a thread for one person? =/ That's a lot of threads and if they don't pick one, then that thread goes unanswered. And if they reply to them all, then that means that the new person would be swamped in threads. Or would this work on a feeding ground type system? You drop one thread and let the new people congregate at that place? And it's different threads for different types of characters? If so, that's still very impersonal and ultimately a little insulting. "YOU. NEW PERSON. PLAY." It still feels as though you're forcing people to become a part of the "Remoor Scene" and that's not for everyone. The way things are now seems to be working. New people show up, we greet them, they make threads that may or may not get responded to, they come to the C-box, we get to know them, plots are made. Or they could ask. Really, though, I think that going out there and being so pro-active about it is sort of intimidating and a recipe for wasted writing.
Unless you plan on handling it on a case-by-case basis. Send a PM to greet them and let them know that if they want to thread, they can let you know. That, I see working. That, I've seen working on a couple of other sites. And, the thing is, if someone finds another character interesting, they'll PM about it. They'll reach out to that other player and ask them if they want to plot. Most plots take care of themselves that way, without a third-party guiding them. I don't think that this system, this WC, EC system is necessary. Maybe sending PMs would help the natural flow that's going on, but at the end of the day, I'd say it was more accessory than necessity. [/size][/quote] No. I must have phrased my previous post wrong, but no. There isn't one thread for each person. I meant each Welcome Committee Member would post a thread every now and then, for any new members that might want to go to the thread. It's not mandatory, it's their own choice. And no, it wasn't going to be so specific that there is different personality threads. I'm talking about the Welcome Committee Members (The People who RUN it) have different personalities. So for example when Shanas picking members, she won't ask loads of evil members to be on the WC, she'll make it vary. And no, there won't be anything in the title saying 'FOR EVIL PEOPLE', it won't be that specific. It will be nice, easy and simple.
And yes, that it exactly what I was thinking. There would be an official WC account which the WC Members login to PM new Members and tell them the current WC threads. I just feel that the WC and EC will get things more organised, especially for those who aren't familiar with Role-playing or Pokemon, etc.
Edit for NomNom: Well, the main aim is that Shana or Feather/Jam It choose the people for it, actually. No, not all old remoorians will be picked. It would be a matter of the staffs opinions, and I can't really give any more info on that. To be honest, depending on what Shana thinks of this, she'll be the judge of that.
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Post by aug on Oct 27, 2008 18:07:47 GMT -5
Well. I dunno. That's how I feel. I've already said what I needed to say, and I stand by my opinion that this idea is a superfluity and could be construed as vaguely insulting. What you've said has offered little in the way of changing my mind, but I respect the site's decision if they should decide to go through with implementing this system. THOUGH. Let the record say, I am against this idea, which is just my unsolicited opinion.[/size][/font]
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Post by xxphenomenonxx on Oct 27, 2008 18:19:22 GMT -5
So, everyone on the WC is going to make a thread for one person? =/ That's a lot of threads and if they don't pick one, then that thread goes unanswered. And if they reply to them all, then that means that the new person would be swamped in threads. Or would this work on a feeding ground type system? You drop one thread and let the new people congregate at that place? And it's different threads for different types of characters? If so, that's still very impersonal and ultimately a little insulting. "YOU. NEW PERSON. PLAY." It still feels as though you're forcing people to become a part of the "Remoor Scene" and that's not for everyone. The way things are now seems to be working. New people show up, we greet them, they make threads that may or may not get responded to, they come to the C-box, we get to know them, plots are made. Or they could ask. Really, though, I think that going out there and being so pro-active about it is sort of intimidating and a recipe for wasted writing.
Unless you plan on handling it on a case-by-case basis. Send a PM to greet them and let them know that if they want to thread, they can let you know. That, I see working. That, I've seen working on a couple of other sites. And, the thing is, if someone finds another character interesting, they'll PM about it. They'll reach out to that other player and ask them if they want to plot. Most plots take care of themselves that way, without a third-party guiding them. I don't think that this system, this WC, EC system is necessary. Maybe sending PMs would help the natural flow that's going on, but at the end of the day, I'd say it was more accessory than necessity. [/size][/quote] No. I must have phrased my previous post wrong, but no. There isn't one thread for each person. I meant each Welcome Committee Member would post a thread every now and then, for any new members that might want to go to the thread. It's not mandatory, it's their own choice. And no, it wasn't going to be so specific that there is different personality threads. I'm talking about the Welcome Committee Members (The People who RUN it) have different personalities. So for example when Shanas picking members, she won't ask loads of evil members to be on the WC, she'll make it vary. And no, there won't be anything in the title saying 'FOR EVIL PEOPLE', it won't be that specific. It will be nice, easy and simple.
And yes, that it exactly what I was thinking. There would be an official WC account which the WC Members login to PM new Members and tell them the current WC threads. I just feel that the WC and EC will get things more organised, especially for those who aren't familiar with Role-playing or Pokemon, etc.
Edit for NomNom: Well, the main aim is that Shana or Feather/Jam It choose the people for it, actually. No, not all old remoorians will be picked. It would be a matter of the staffs opinions, and I can't really give any more info on that. To be honest, depending on what Shana thinks of this, she'll be the judge of that.[/quote] So the admins run it then? Or rather, they pick out the members that do? I still would prefer to know what would make another member more capable then say, another person of running the same operation. I don't know. It's hard to explain. And I'm still sticking with the idea that you won't need the WC if you keep the EC and stick with that. You could have a section of the EC on the boards dedicated to the kind of stuff that the WC performs. After all, there's no point in new members going to two places to hear about plots and things like that. AND you can kill two birds with one stone if you keep the EC, make a board for introductions and things like that and keep the plottage and stuff there as well. The WC still seems moot, and an extra add on to me. What's the real point? >.>'
In my opinion, all you would need is the EC. It's my firm belief that our current system for new members works well. I just have this very bad feeling that somebody may end up with their feelings hurt somehow...I really don't like the idea of this kind of..'leadership' thing. The members that are 'chosen' to do it. Because what makes me, for instance (if I was picked) better then the next person over there? I just don't like the idea that other members would have the authority of this thing either. I don't know. I feel as if anything, only a staff member could be in charge, and everyone else could just be members, contributing ideas/plots/threads/introductions/welcomes and so on. And how many people are we talking about here in these comittees? It almost seems as if you want everybody to be a part of it..but the same thing is almost achieved in the OOC boards. We have plot charts and plotting threads and even Chat and so on threads. It almost seems as if instead of going through the whole process of this, we should just make another board that says, "Remoor News and Points of Interest" or something and post up these plots and stuff there, and not make it MANDATORY to read, but point out that these are the current plot lines that are available. People could make their own threads then and plot it out from there...hm.
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Post by blade on Oct 28, 2008 5:58:41 GMT -5
No. I must have phrased my previous post wrong, but no. There isn't one thread for each person. I meant each Welcome Committee Member would post a thread every now and then, for any new members that might want to go to the thread. It's not mandatory, it's their own choice. And no, it wasn't going to be so specific that there is different personality threads. I'm talking about the Welcome Committee Members (The People who RUN it) have different personalities. So for example when Shanas picking members, she won't ask loads of evil members to be on the WC, she'll make it vary. And no, there won't be anything in the title saying 'FOR EVIL PEOPLE', it won't be that specific. It will be nice, easy and simple.
And yes, that it exactly what I was thinking. There would be an official WC account which the WC Members login to PM new Members and tell them the current WC threads. I just feel that the WC and EC will get things more organised, especially for those who aren't familiar with Role-playing or Pokemon, etc.
Edit for NomNom: Well, the main aim is that Shana or Feather/Jam It choose the people for it, actually. No, not all old remoorians will be picked. It would be a matter of the staffs opinions, and I can't really give any more info on that. To be honest, depending on what Shana thinks of this, she'll be the judge of that. So the admins run it then? Or rather, they pick out the members that do? I still would prefer to know what would make another member more capable then say, another person of running the same operation. I don't know. It's hard to explain. And I'm still sticking with the idea that you won't need the WC if you keep the EC and stick with that. You could have a section of the EC on the boards dedicated to the kind of stuff that the WC performs. After all, there's no point in new members going to two places to hear about plots and things like that. AND you can kill two birds with one stone if you keep the EC, make a board for introductions and things like that and keep the plottage and stuff there as well. The WC still seems moot, and an extra add on to me. What's the real point? >.>'
In my opinion, all you would need is the EC. It's my firm belief that our current system for new members works well. I just have this very bad feeling that somebody may end up with their feelings hurt somehow...I really don't like the idea of this kind of..'leadership' thing. The members that are 'chosen' to do it. Because what makes me, for instance (if I was picked) better then the next person over there? I just don't like the idea that other members would have the authority of this thing either. I don't know. I feel as if anything, only a staff member could be in charge, and everyone else could just be members, contributing ideas/plots/threads/introductions/welcomes and so on. And how many people are we talking about here in these comittees? It almost seems as if you want everybody to be a part of it..but the same thing is almost achieved in the OOC boards. We have plot charts and plotting threads and even Chat and so on threads. It almost seems as if instead of going through the whole process of this, we should just make another board that says, "Remoor News and Points of Interest" or something and post up these plots and stuff there, and not make it MANDATORY to read, but point out that these are the current plot lines that are available. People could make their own threads then and plot it out from there...hm. Good Point. But you have to remember that it isn't a 'leadership'. When you think about it, its the same as being left out as a staff member. You could say the exact same thing if you for example didn't get to be Administrator and I did. And as for numbers, well, however much is neccessary. I'd let Shana decide that, after all, I'm only suggesting it. I gace the base idea, I can't give anything else or I might as well be Shana.
I don't see the harm in it. Its not going to cause' any harm if we just gave it a try-out. I don't see the problem, considering its just a WC member making a thread for new members to join. Its their decision if they want to, so I don't see whats wrong with that. I just think its a great way to hook new members up with other new members. Like a chat-up-line, except... its not. And I never said anything about anything being 'MANDATORY', so I don't know where you got that from ;D
And as for their already being plot stuffs. Thats great! Now we can make more. I think the WC is a great addition to what we already have, and not saying that Remoor isn't excellent already, but I'm all for this. I think it will be yet another great step for Remoor. Anyway, for the EC. Well, we could drop the WC, and forge it with the EC. This might end all the arguments. Still looking for people's opinions, so please comment
Any questions on the WC, just ask them here, Katse Best you know all about it before we continue...
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Post by xxphenomenonxx on Oct 28, 2008 7:03:26 GMT -5
So the admins run it then? Or rather, they pick out the members that do? I still would prefer to know what would make another member more capable then say, another person of running the same operation. I don't know. It's hard to explain. And I'm still sticking with the idea that you won't need the WC if you keep the EC and stick with that. You could have a section of the EC on the boards dedicated to the kind of stuff that the WC performs. After all, there's no point in new members going to two places to hear about plots and things like that. AND you can kill two birds with one stone if you keep the EC, make a board for introductions and things like that and keep the plottage and stuff there as well. The WC still seems moot, and an extra add on to me. What's the real point? >.>'
In my opinion, all you would need is the EC. It's my firm belief that our current system for new members works well. I just have this very bad feeling that somebody may end up with their feelings hurt somehow...I really don't like the idea of this kind of..'leadership' thing. The members that are 'chosen' to do it. Because what makes me, for instance (if I was picked) better then the next person over there? I just don't like the idea that other members would have the authority of this thing either. I don't know. I feel as if anything, only a staff member could be in charge, and everyone else could just be members, contributing ideas/plots/threads/introductions/welcomes and so on. And how many people are we talking about here in these comittees? It almost seems as if you want everybody to be a part of it..but the same thing is almost achieved in the OOC boards. We have plot charts and plotting threads and even Chat and so on threads. It almost seems as if instead of going through the whole process of this, we should just make another board that says, "Remoor News and Points of Interest" or something and post up these plots and stuff there, and not make it MANDATORY to read, but point out that these are the current plot lines that are available. People could make their own threads then and plot it out from there...hm. Good Point. But you have to remember that it isn't a 'leadership'. When you think about it, its the same as being left out as a staff member. You could say the exact same thing if you for example didn't get to be Administrator and I did. And as for numbers, well, however much is neccessary. I'd let Shana decide that, after all, I'm only suggesting it. I gace the base idea, I can't give anything else or I might as well be Shana.
I don't see the harm in it. Its not going to cause' any harm if we just gave it a try-out. I don't see the problem, considering its just a WC member making a thread for new members to join. Its their decision if they want to, so I don't see whats wrong with that. I just think its a great way to hook new members up with other new members. Like a chat-up-line, except... its not. And I never said anything about anything being 'MANDATORY', so I don't know where you got that from ;D
And as for their already being plot stuffs. Thats great! Now we can make more. I think the WC is a great addition to what we already have, and not saying that Remoor isn't excellent already, but I'm all for this. I think it will be yet another great step for Remoor. Anyway, for the EC. Well, we could drop the WC, and forge it with the EC. This might end all the arguments. Still looking for people's opinions, so please comment
Any questions on the WC, just ask them here, Katse Best you know all about it before we continue... >.> The mandatory thing was NOT in reference to the WC at all. It was in reference to the idea of just making a board titled "Remoor News and Points of Interest" or whatever. It had nothing to do with the WC. In fact, that would be ridiculous if anything like this were mandatory. I was just saying that you could achieve the same effect by having a board that all members could access that would hold all the key points of plot and could act as a point of discussion for it too. And THAT wouldn't be mandatory. I never said anything about the WC or the EC. If those were mandatory, I'd be a little agitated actually. <.<
As for the leadership thing, I have to disagree. It is not the same thing as being taken up as an administrator. Administrators do more then just 'lead' a thread/concept whatever. They maintenance the site, and there ARE skills involved with that. We're talking about a select group of people that are picked out of the rest of us to lead a board/committee? I still find it offensive to think that another regular member would be say, 'in charge' over the rest of us on those threads. I don't like it. Sorry, just have to say that. >.>'
And the WC still to me seems pointless if you just take the EC and section a part of it off into the WC. I like the EC. The WC just seems repetitive and pointless. I had another question to bring up but I got to go to class. Be back later. xD
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Post by blade on Oct 28, 2008 7:20:37 GMT -5
Nobodys 'in charge' of anybody, Nomnom. I'm sorry if you picked it up wrong, but being part of the Committee does not give you power of anyone. Not the new members, not the old members, nobody. They aren't like mods. They're just like a regular member like you or me creating a thread, except they're usually specifically for newer members. I'm not sure, but I think you might be a little confused as to the full extent of the WC's plans
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Post by xxphenomenonxx on Oct 28, 2008 11:27:00 GMT -5
Nobodys 'in charge' of anybody, Nomnom. I'm sorry if you picked it up wrong, but being part of the Committee does not give you power of anyone. Not the new members, not the old members, nobody. They aren't like mods. They're just like a regular member like you or me creating a thread, except they're usually specifically for newer members. I'm not sure, but I think you might be a little confused as to the full extent of the WC's plans Maybe. Perhaps my idea of what you're trying to do is a bit off, but it's only been based upon what I've already heard. I've stated my opinion in this matter already though, so maybe it's time I back out and let other people comment now. When a new topic comes up maybe, I'll say something. I don't know. But I'm standing by my opinion, regardless of whether or not there's this impression that I'm "confused" in regards to this WC. Unfortunately, it feels far too repetitive, mundane and unncessary in my opinion. I feel as if will exhaust itself and flood the boards for really unncessary reasons when you can just combine it with the EC by making it some kind of sub section. That way, there's only ONE thing to run, and everything is covered all in one place again.
Like the EC. Not so much the WC. I find it pointless (and from my personal pov and standing, a little insulting). Enough said. I'm out until another topic of conversation comes up. ^^ That's my opinion.
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